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In a recent Business Insider article titled, “Here’s how an air war between Russia and the US in Syria would go down“, the Jeff Bezos backed publication analyzes what would happen if US and Russia air forces engaged each other in Syria.

BI notes…

After the US downed a Syrian jet making a bombing run on US-backed forces fighting ISIS, Russia threatened to target US and US-led coalition planes West of the Euphrates river in Syria.

But while Russia has some advanced surface-to-air missile systems and very agile fighter aircraft in Syria, it wouldn’t fare well in what would be a short, brutal air war against the US.

Of course BI fails to mention that the US is in Syria illegally, occupying land that belongs to a sovereign nation, and helping support Al Qaeda forces in order to divide the Middle East country.

The lunacy that BI is upset that Syrian jets flew over Syrian airspace to attack Al Qaeda jihadists shows how far off the wagon US propaganda has fallen.

BI then asks the hypothetical, what if US and Russian air forces engaged in battle over Syria?

Here is what Business Insider concluded. At the end of their analysis we ask you, our readers, to give their opinion on the ‘what if’ scenario.

According to Omar Lamrani, a senior military analyst at Stratfor, a geopolitical analysis firm, Russia has “about 25 planes, only about ten of which are dedicated to air superiority (Su-35s and Su-30s), and against that they’ll have to face fifth-gen stealth fighters, dozens of strike fighters, F-15s, F-16s, as well as B-1 and B-52 bombers. And of course the vast US Navy and pretty much hundreds of Tomahawks.”

“Russians have a lot of air defenses, they’re not exactly defenseless by any means,” Lamrani told Business Insider, “But the US has very heavy air superiority.” Even though individual Russian platforms come close to matching, and in some ways exceed the capability of US jets, it comes down to numbers.

So if Russia did follow through with its threat, and target a US aircraft that did not back down West of the Euphrates in Syria, and somehow managed to shoot it down, then what?

“The US coalition is very cautious,” said Lamrani. “The whole US coalition is on edge for any moves from Russia at this point.”

Lamrani also said that while F/A-18Es are more visible and doing most of the work, the US keeps a buffer of F-22 stealth jets between its forces and Russia’s. If Russia did somehow manage to shoot down a US or US-led coalition plane, a US stealth jet would probably return fire before it ever reached the base.

At that point the Russians would have a moment to think very critically if they wanted to engage with the full might of the US Air Force after the eye-for-an-eye shoot downs.

If US surveillance detected a mass mobilization of Russian jets in response to the back-and-forth, the US wouldn’t just wait politely for Russians to get their planes in the sky so they can fight back.

Instead, a giant salvo of cruise missiles would pour in from the USS George H. W. Bush carrier strike group, much like the April 7 strike on Syria’s Sharyat air base. But this time, the missiles would have to saturate and defeat Russia’s missile defenses first, which they could do by sheer numbers if not using electronic attack craft.

Then, after neutering Russia’s defenses, the ships could target the air base, not only destroying planes on the ground but also tearing up the runways, so no planes could take off. At this point US and Coalition aircraft would have free reign to pass overhead and completely devastate Russian forces.

Russia would likely manage to score a couple intercepts and even shoot down some US assets, but overall the Russian contingent in Syria cannot stand up to the US, let alone the entire coalition of nations fighting ISIS.

Russia also has a strong Navy that could target US air bases in the region, but that would require Russia to fire on Turkey, Jordan, and Qatar, which would be politically and technically difficult for them.

This scenario of a hypothetical air war is exceedingly unlikely. Russia knows the numbers are against them and it would “not [be] so easy for the Russians to decide to shoot down a US aircraft,” according to Lamrani.

What do you think?

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Well it might be said that this Business Insider hypothetical scenario is somewhat skewed. With the said mag being owned by Bozzo Bezos and the analysis courtesy of Stratfor – a long time CIA contractor.

Briefly bearing this in mind:

Firstly the US do not know the full capability of the Russian defence systems. It appears they are considerably in advance of the US.

Secondly the US through over stretch do not have all this kit readily available.

Thirdly the US chain of command is clearly in disarray.

And fourthly the new enemy target is shaping up to be Iran.

Josie
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I hate to say it but this article gives the American people a false sense of security! We have been sitting on our a_ _ for years while Russia and China have been building up their military like crazy. We haven’t had any real leadership in this country for years. Now that we have someone that is trying to save this country, I hope, most are working against him. Unless they have a death wish they better stop and join his ranks…God Bless

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The reality of this situation is that the war in Syria has been fought on the ground essentially, and it is virtually over, in terms of the destruction of the US-backed terrorists. Thus any aerial conflict between the US and the RAF is a side issue, but would rapidly become extremely bloody if the US decided to launch doomsday attacks on Russian assets in Syria; this would of course be completely unacceptable to Russia. Any US naval assets launching aircraft or missiles against Russian forces would become legitimate targets for Russian submarine and surface vessels; many would be sunk, or… Read more »

John R. Nolan
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John R. Nolan

Sadly, it seems, the American war hungry leaders, and their henchmen, (or women), are intent on global conflict, as they manifest an intrinsic self destruct gene in their makeup, character, (both men and women are now wearing make up), which further displays America’s Scriptural recognition as the new Sodom. Our world has gone into meltdown, the mass media is hyping the proles into an unquenchable lust for war, without any reason for war, against anyone, but purely for the sake of war, as only mass murder will now satisfying the American lust for blood. 1984! One sees it in the… Read more »

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Guy

I really don’t want to speculate or go into any pi$$ing contest as to who would come out on top.We all know that Russia is in Syria legally and the US/West is not . Beating one’s chest on possible scenarios does not help the cause of justice and world peace , 2 things that humanity should strive for. Given a military clash in Syria , knowing the American establishment ,it could escalate to nuclear , although I can’t bring myself to believe that they are that ignorant,in which case , in which case this discussion is a moot point.That Business… Read more »

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sierravic

Russia’s primary objective in Syria is not to fight Americans. Russia’s primary objective is to help stabilise the region in order to prevent salafist head choppers spilling over into the Caucasus region and destabilising Russia itself. The reason Russians now consider US and their lapdogs’ planes as targets is because US and their lapdogs have interfered with Russia’s primary objective. Both sides know that if there was a skirmish of any kind, it could very rapidly escalate to the exchange of “gifts” in the form of uranium, plutonium and hydrogen bombs. Bum! Game over, planet. So, reading insane ramblings of… Read more »

Doug Brown
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It’s a fight no one wants, no one with even a drop of sanity, but that doesn’t mean it couldn’t happen. God help us if it does and it escalates, Israel would jump in, Hamas would wet their pants with delight, Jordan would feign horror, Saudi Arabia would be confused (as always), and Turkey? Which way Turkey lands would probably decide it.

Andrew Pate
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Andrew Pate

Isn’t it great how international law works in a war?
In the end its the winner who wins and the loser becomes the bad guy.
International law means didlly shit to the US, it has its own law of might is right.

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permopin

I used to read the B I for a while, frankly, it was a waste of my time. Financially, I’m no better than I was before, and that says a lot about B I’s military analysis of a war situation. Wars are always good for businesses. and this article is based on that fact. Right now, America doesn’t need a war abroad, it needs peace at home. And a leadership that could bring prosperity for all Americans and not the B I & co.

permopin
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permopin

Just wait for the BI’s advice on where to put your money in the next issues. These people thrive on people’s fear to make money and have no clue about wars.

permopin
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permopin

Just wait for the next issues of BI and where to put your money in precarious times. These people thrive on fear to make money and don’t have a clue about wars. Shameful!

Le Ruscino
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Le Ruscino

The 59 (err well 60) US Raytheon Missile FAIL says it all !

Andrew Earl
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Andrew Earl

The US is awash with hysterical wild eyed psychopaths. God knows what kind of genetic accident has happened in the immigration process.

Ian Shears
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Ian Shears

A Business entity has to make judgments and factor-in issues of air-war here and there. It is thus reasonable for BI to comment. From a Business point of view this scenario allows for the replenishment of a large number of cruise missiles. It allows for Russia to be defeated and the consequent production of many more jets of the type used to defeat them. All-in-all I would say this is a slightly biased report. Though probably it is an accurate one.

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The main reason Russia does not have military bases abroad is that they have very advanced military equipment capable of reaching around the Globe. BI is delusional. It is well known in Washington/Pentagon circles that in any military conflict using “traditional” weapons the U.S would lose.

Add to that Iran/Hezbollah and China, the Pentagon knows that any kind of military exercise is suicide.

The fact that things have not as yet blown up is due to the extreme wisdom of the Russians, and particularly Putin.

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Photos of swastika on Ukrainian mall stairway creates a stir [Video]

Ukrainian nationalist press in damage-control mode to explain away the Nazi sign, but they forgot the name of the street the mall is on.

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One of the aspects of news about Ukraine that does not make it past the gatekeepers of the American and Western news media is how a significant contingent of Ukrainian nationalists have espoused a sense of reverence for Nazis. The idea that this could even happen anywhere in the world in an open manner makes the claim seem too absurd to be taken seriously. Gone are the days when the Nazi swastika adorned streets and buildings in Europe. Right?

Well, maybe, wrong.

This was seen in Kyiv’s Gorodok (or Horodok, if you insist) Gallery, a shopping center in that city, located on Bandera Avenue.

The pro-nationalist news service UNIAN wasted no time going to press with their explanation of this incident, which admittedly may be accurate:

Children and teenagers who participated in the All-Ukrainian break dance festival held in the Kyiv-based Gorodok Gallery shopping mall were shocked to see a swastika image projected onto an LED staircase.

The mall administration apologized to visitors, explaining saying that their computer system had apparently been hacked.

“The administration and staff have no relation to whatever was projected onto the LED-staircase, and in no way does it support such [an] act. Now we are actively searching for those involved in the attack,” it said in a statement.

According to Gorodok Gallery’s administrative office, it was not the first time a cyber breach took place.

As reported earlier, Ukraine is believed to be a testing ground for cyberattacks, many of which are launched from Russia. Hackers have earlier targeted critical energy infrastructure, state institutions, banks, and large businesses.

This time, it appears, hackers aimed to feed the Kremlin’s narrative of “Nazis in power in Ukraine” and create a relevant hype-driving viral story for Russian media to spread it worldwide.

The Gorodok Gallery also apologized on its Facebook page and said that this was a result of hacking.

But what about the street that the mall is on? From the self-same Facebook page, this is what we see:


To translate, for those who do not read Ukrainian or Russian, the address says the following:

23 Steven Bandera Prospekt, Kyiv, Ukraine 04073

This street was formerly called “Moscow Avenue.” Big change, as we shall see.

Steven Bandera got his birthday designated as a national holiday in Ukraine last December. He is known in Ukraine’s history for one thing. According to the Jerusalem Post:

The street where the shopping mall is located is named for Stepan Bandera, a Ukrainian nationalist who briefly collaborated with Nazi Germany in its fight against Russia.

His troops are believed to have killed thousands of Jews.

Several Israeli papers picked this bit of news up, and of course, the reasons are understandable. However, for the West, it appears possible that this news event will largely go unnoticed, even by that great nation that is often called “Israel’s proxy”, the United States.

This is probably because for certain people in the US, there is a sense of desperation to mask the nature of events that are happening in Ukraine.

The usual fare of mainstream news for the West probably consists of things like “Putin’s military seizes innocent Ukrainian sailors in Kerch incident” or, “Ukraine’s Orthodox Church declared fully independent by Patriarch of Constantinople” (not that too many Americans know what a Constantinople even is, anyway), but the overriding narrative for the American people about this country is “Ukraine are the good guys, and Russia are the bad guys,” and this will not be pushed aside, even to accommodate the logical grievance of Israel to this incident.

If this article gets to Western papers at all, it will be the UNIAN line they adhere to, that evil pro-Russia hackers caused this stairway to have a swastika to provoke the idea that Ukraine somehow supports Naziism.

But UNIAN neglected to mention that the street name was recently changed to Stephan Bandera (in 2016), and no one appears to have hacked this. Nor does UNIAN talk about the Azov fighters that openly espoused much of the Nazi ideology. For nationalist Ukrainians, this is all for the greater good of getting rid of all things Russia.

A further sad fact about this is the near impossibility of getting assuredly honest and neutral information about this and other similar happenings. Both Ukrainian nationalists and Russian media agencies have dogs in the race, so to speak. They are both personally connected to these events. However, the Russian media cannot be discounted here, because they do offer a witness and perspective, probably the closest to any objective look at what is going on in Ukraine. We include a video of a “torchlight march” that took place in 2017 that featured such hypernationalist activity, which is not reported in the West.

More such reports are available, but this one seemed the best one to summarize the character of what is going on in the country.

While we do not know the motive and identities of whoever programmed the swastika, it cannot really be stated that this was just a random publicity stunt in a country that has no relationship with Nazi veneration.

The street the mall is on bears witness to that.

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Putin: If mid-range missiles deployed in Europe, Russia will station arms to strike decision centers

Putin: If US deploys mid-range missiles in Europe, Russia will be forced to respond.

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If the US deploys intermediate-range missiles in Europe, Moscow will respond by stationing weapons aimed not only against missiles themselves, but also at command and control centers, from which a launch order would come.

The warning came from President Vladimir Putin, who announced Russia’s planned actions after the US withdraws from the INF Treaty – a Cold War-era agreement between Washington and Moscow which banned both sides form having ground-based cruise and ballistic missiles and developing relevant technology.

The US is set to unilaterally withdraw from the treaty in six months, which opens the possibility of once again deploying these missiles in Europe. Russia would see that as a major threat and respond with its own deployments, Putin said.

Intermediate-range missiles were banned and removed from Europe because they would leave a very short window of opportunity for the other side to decide whether to fire in retaliation after detecting a launch – mere minutes. This poses the threat of an accidental nuclear exchange triggered by a false launch warning, with the officer in charge having no time to double check.

“Russia will be forced to create and deploy weapon systems, which can be used not only against the territories from which this direct threat would be projected, but also against those territories where decision centers are located, from which an order to use those weapons against us may come.” The Russian president, who was delivering a keynote address to the Russian parliament on Wednesday, did not elaborate on whether any counter-deployment would only target US command-and-control sites in Europe or would also include targets on American soil.

He did say the Russian weapon system in terms of flight times and other specifications would “correspond” to those targeting Russia.

“We know how to do it and we will implement those plans without a delay once the relevant threats against us materialize,”he said.

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Russia’s Lukoil Halts Oil Swaps In Venezuela After U.S. Sanctions

Under the new wide-ranging U.S. sanctions, Venezuela will not be able to import U.S. naphtha which it has typically used to dilute its heavy crude grades.

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Litasco, the international trading arm of Russia’s second-biggest oil producer Lukoil, stopped its oil swaps deals with Venezuela immediately after the U.S. imposed sanctions on Venezuela’s oil industry and state oil firm PDVSA, Lukoil’s chief executive Vagit Alekperov said at an investment forum in Russia.

Russia, which stands by Nicolas Maduro in the ongoing Venezuelan political crisis, has vowed to defend its interests in Venezuela—including oil interests—within the international law using “all mechanisms available to us.”

Because of Moscow’s support for Maduro, the international community and market analysts are closely watching the relationship of Russian oil companies with Venezuela.

“Litasco does not work with Venezuela. Before the restrictions were imposed, Litasco had operations to deliver oil products and to sell oil. There were swap operations. Today there are none, since the sanctions were imposed,” Lukoil’s Alekperov said at the Russian Investment Forum in the Black Sea resort of Sochi.

Another Russian oil producer, Gazprom Neft, however, does not see major risks for its oil business in Venezuela, the company’s chief executive officer Alexander Dyukov said at the same event.

Gazprom Neft has not supplied and does not supply oil products to Venezuela needed to dilute the thick heavy Venezuelan oil, Dyukov said, noting that the Latin American country hadn’t approached Gazprom Neft for possible supply of oil products for diluents.

Under the new wide-ranging U.S. sanctions, Venezuela will not be able to import U.S. naphtha which it has typically used to dilute its heavy crude grades. Analysts expect that a shortage of diluents could accelerate beginning this month the already steadily declining Venezuelan oil production and exports.

Venezuela’s crude oil production plunged by another 59,000 bpd from December 2018 to stand at just 1.106 million bpd in January 2019, OPEC’s secondary sources figures showed in the cartel’s closely watched Monthly Oil Market Report (MOMR) this week.

By Tsvetana Paraskova for Oilprice.com

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